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Herpes, Oral and Genital;

Human Papillomavirus (HPV)

Herpes / Cold Sores / HPV 


Topical Vitamin C for HPV, Genital Herpes, and Herpes Simplex: Vitamin C as an Antiviral


The problem: “My doctor says there is no cure for herpes or for HPV.”


“No cure “is an absolute statement. There may be no pharmaceutical cure; there may be no medical cure; there may be no well-publicized cure. But before you resign yourself to accepting painful and otherwise problematic herpes lesions as your lot for life, consider this:


The greatest natural enemy of herpes, and HPV, is vitamin C. It is effective taken orally in very high doses, or applied directly (topically) as a paste, or both.


If you do not agree with this, it is because you have yet to try it.


Topically:  Make a paste with vitamin C powder and a few drops of water. Apply the paste directly to external herpes lesions. You will likely experience a significant reduction in both discomfort and in size overnight.


Ascorbic acid powder works best, in my opinion, but may smart a bit if there is a break in the skin. Sodium ascorbate and calcium ascorbate are non-acidic forms of vitamin C, and both are “ouchless.” If you cannot easily find those forms, just mix in some sodium bicarbonate (“Arm and Hammer Baking Soda”) to make ascorbic acid pH neutral. (It will fizz when you do.)


If the lesions were fluid-filled (that liquid is loaded with viruses), you will soon notice that the lesions are drier. For lesions that have broken and fluid leaked out, apply the paste not only on, but liberally AROUND the whole area. Sure, when the vitamin C paste dries, you will see a slight white “frost” of left-over C crystals. But no big deal. It sure looks better than a herpes sore. Repeat this process twice daily until the skin is completely healed.


I have knowledge of cases where such treatment has gotten rid of the problem in two or three days. What is even more important is that there was no reoccurrence, even over many years.


Antiviral properties of vitamin C are especially noticeable at the highest concentrations. There is no way to get a higher concentration than pure vitamin C powder applied directly to herpes lesions or human papilloma virus “warts.”


Common sense caution: Is herpes contagious? Yes. You never know for sure if you’ve killed every single virus. Use all cautions that you have learned to avoid spreading herpes or HPV. If you don’t know them, read up on the subject. That is what Google searches and public libraries are there for.


Orally: Lowered resistance can trigger an outbreak of latent herpes viruses. Marta, age 30, was in her sixth month of a long-desired pregnancy.   She came to see me specifically because of genital herpes. Her obstetrician had correctly told her that she could not deliver vaginally as long as there were active lesions. Exposure to herpes constitutes a real danger to a newborn. The doctor had said that if the lesions were inactive, and preferably gone, for a period of so many weeks, he'd OK a natural delivery. Otherwise, it would be a Cesarean for her.


 Her question was expected.


 "Is there any way to get rid the lesions with nutrition?" Marta asked.


 Conformist, party-line dietitians will vigorously deny such a possibility, but then, they don't read their own journals, and certainly not Linus Pauling's books or the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine.


 So the truthful answer, the one I'd have to give if under oath, is: Yes, there probably is: very large doses of vitamin C.


 I ran this past Marta, and her concern was, once again, entirely predictable.


 "Are megadoses of vitamin C safe for the baby?"


 I knew that Frederick R. Klenner, M.D. (the trailblazer of vitamin C docs) gave large doses to over 300 pregnant women and reported virtually no complications in any of the pregnancies or deliveries (Irwin Stone, The Healing Factor, chapter 28, ).  Indeed, hospital nurses around Reidsville, North Carolina, the region where Dr. Klenner practiced, noted that the infants who were healthiest and happiest were in Klenner's care. The hospital staff dubbed them the "Vitamin C Babies."


 Specifically, Klenner gave: 4,000 milligrams during the first trimester, 6,000 mg during the second, and 10,000 milligrams of vitamin C a day - or even 15,000 mg - throughout their third trimester. This was his routine prescription for healthy women. He would respond to any sickness with daily vitamin C injections totaling many times that.


 Over a nearly 40 year practice, Klenner (and previous animal studies) rigorously ascertained the safety and effectiveness of vitamin C during pregnancy.  Specifically, there were no miscarriages in this entire group of 300 women. There were no postpartum hemorrhages at all.  There was no cardiac distress and there were no toxic manifestations (Stone, p. 191). Among Klenner's patients were the Fultz quintuplets, who, at the time, were the only quints in the southeastern U.S. to survive. Upon admission to the hospital for childbirth, Klenner gave all mothers-to-be "booster" injections of vitamin C.


 So my answer to Marta's question of safety was an unfettered "yes."


 Additionally," I added, "For the ladies who had all the vitamin C, labor was both shorter and less painful."


 Soon to be facing her first delivery, Marta had a vested interest in that little side benefit.


 "I've never given birth myself," I went on, "But my wife's two deliveries confirmed what Klenner said.  Her first labor was two hours and forty-five minutes total, and her second labor was one hour and forty-five minutes from the very onset to "it's a girl."


 “Wow!" Marta said, happier than ever.


 "I hesitate to keep this going, but there's still more. The obstetrical nurses at Klenner's hospital repeatedly verified that stretch marks were seldom seen on Klenner's post-partum patients. I can personally vouch for this being true with my spouse. After two kids, the second with a birthweight of 10 pounds, two ounces..."


 Marta's eyes grew large at the very idea.


 "... My wife had a single, half-inch stretch mark.  Pretty neat, eh?"


 Marta nodded several times.


 "Well, I really want to get rid of this herpes thing so I can have a natural childbirth," Marta said. “I know that herpes is most certainly not safe for the baby. And from what I've read, Cesarean delivery, like all operations, carries risk, too. It seemed that my balance sheet favors trying the vitamin."


 "Well," I said, "If you are going to do it, Marta, you might as well do it right. This means building up your C level to saturation. That's bowel tolerance, remember?"


 She did.


 "And you mean that I might have to take much more than I'd expect to, right?" Marta added.


 "Yes," I said. "You do not take the amount of vitamin C you think you should take; rather, you take the amount of vitamin C that the body responds to. When your symptoms leave, that's the right level for you at that time. As you get better, you will not be able to hold as much of the vitamin. The dose is self-adjusting, and you need no equipment to monitor it. Just take as much as you can comfortably hold, just enough to be symptom-free, but not so much as causes loose bowels."


 Marta said, "How long will it be before I see any progress?"


 "It depends on how much vitamin C you take, and how much vitamin C you need. A dry sponge holds a lot of water.  The body seems to have an enormous capacity for vitamin C when infected with a virus. We'll all find out how much you need when we see how much you can comfortably hold.  It is not a contest; just do what gets the healing. But it will take time to get to your saturation level."


 "What can I expect along the way?" she asked.


 "The first thing you will notice is: nothing. There is a latency period, a lag-time, while you load the body with the vitamin.  It's a bit like waiting for your computer to load a new program."


 "Can you try another analogy?" Marta said.


 "Look at it this way," I responded.  "Let's say you were in a plane taking off from Buffalo International Airport in the middle of winter.  It is snowing, dark, gray, stormy and windy. Your jet takes off, and begins to climb.  The wind rocks the plane, the snow and sleet and hail come down, and it's all dismally gray outside. The plane keeps climbing.  All you can see out the window is snow, darkness and the wings shaking from the wind. The person next to you is turning a bit green. Up you go, still in the winter storm. Then, all of the sudden, the airplane breaks out on top of the clouds, and like magic, there's bright sunlight and blue sky everywhere.  Look down: Far below you is the storm.  It's like it never happened, like you were never in it.


 "That is exactly what it is like when you reach saturation of vitamin C. At a certain altitude, higher than you expected, your symptoms go away. This characteristically occurs with such ease that it is hard to believe it until you experience it for yourself.  Precious few medical professionals have learned this. The medical-dietetic industry has a real fear of flying if vitamin C is the aircraft. Too bad, when it is the safest and fastest plane in the air.


 Marta was nobody's fool, and worked closely with her obstetrician. She had heard about something termed "rebound scurvy," and now asked me about it.


 "Rebound scurvy, or the rebound effect, is when a person takes a lot of vitamin C, usually with great success, and then abruptly stops taking it.  At that instance, symptoms come back, sometimes including a few classic vitamin C deficiency signs.  Research shows that such an effect does not occur in the vast majority of situations.


 "However, pregnancy is a special case.  If the mother takes a lot of C while pregnant, Klenner and others confirmed that her labor and delivery will be shorter, easier and free of complications. If the vitamin helped while Mommy was pregnant, it should most certainly be given to the baby. During gestation, the baby got all the C he needed. But now, baby is on his own: no more C through the placenta and umbilical cord.  If the baby is used to, and benefiting from, abundant vitamin C, it obviously should be provided for him individually after birth.  Klenner gave newborns about 50 milligrams a day. Not doing that results in a scorbutic baby."


 "But doesn't that just mean that the baby is dependent on vitamin C?" Marta said. I told you she was nobody's fool.


 "No," I answered. "No more than the baby is dependent on oxygen, or water, or food. Consider this: If you have a really high paying job, and expenses to fit it, and you are suddenly fired, you have a problem. Your problem is not money. Your problem is a lack of money."


 Marta smiled comfortably.


 "So don't stop a good thing, then," she said.


 "That's it," I agreed. "If vitamin C is important enough for the woman to take before giving birth, then it is important enough for the baby to get after it has been born."


 "I can see that," she said. "But I'm going to breast feed my baby. Is there vitamin C in breast milk?"


 "There is some, but we do not know how much at any given feeding. Keep in mind that the nursing woman is healing up and stressed out.  Along with recovering from childbirth, she is adapting to really momentous changes in her lifestyle and sleeping schedule, and everybody knows that taking care of a baby is a tremendous demand on a person. Mom needs a lot of vitamin C herself. So her amount of available surplus C is small.  For this reason, breast milk is an unreliable source of vitamin C for babies. However, mother's milk otherwise is the perfect food for infants. You absolutely, positively are making the right decision when you breast feed. Just slip the child a little C each day as you do it.  Even a newborn can gum down a tiny bit of a finely-powdered chewable children's C tablet. You can put a little right on the baby's tongue. Vitamin C drops are also available.  My own kids got supplemental C from the very first days of their lives."


 "What if a baby was formula-fed?" Marta asked.


 "Then supplemental C is ever more essential," I said. "Very little of the vitamin is found in formula, especially after it is manufactured, packaged, opened, heated, poured, and oxidized during bottle feeding."


 "OK," said Marta. "I guess I should get started."


 She did.


 It was not that long afterward that I had a follow-up conversation with her.


 "The delivery is on," Marta said. "The herpes lesions are all gone, and have been gone since I got to saturation with the C. Do you want to know how much it took?"


 "You bet I do."


 "44,000 milligrams a day!" she hooted. "Can you believe that? And at that much I hardly had any bowel signs at all. So I dropped it to about 35 to 40 thousand and stayed there. That's it!"


 Not quite. A couple of months later, Marta had one of the most adorable baby girls I've ever seen. That Dr. Klenner fellow. I'd have liked to have met him.


 Right now there are a whole lot of researchers searching for a good new anti-viral drug. They are the blind leading the blind. They already have one. The pharmaceutical industry's mercenary scientists and their medical doctor clones will, in fact, try everything but megadoses of vitamin C. I think of them as birds that are willing to land on any branch except one. Too bad, because that one branch is the best in the tree.

[The above case history is excerpted from Andrew Saul’s book DOCTOR YOURSELF: Natural Healing that Works (reviewed at ). For ordering information, Click Here. ]

For more information about high-dose vitamin C treatment:


Dr. Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C is now posted in its entirety at


The complete text of Irwin Stone's book The Healing Factor is now posted for free reading at




The amino acid L-lysine also helps fight herpes. Keep your wallet in your pocket: you can get lots of lysine by eating lots of beans. An effective dose is about 3 to 4 grams (3,000 to 4,000 milligrams) of lysine daily.  That is about a can and a half of beans a day. Wait! Before you go off singing the “Musical Fruit” song, hear me out: Beans, and all the other legumes, are literally loaded with lysine. Peas are very high in lysine.  So are lentils, refried beans, pinto beans, kidney beans, three-bean salad, bean soup, bean burritos, veggie bean-burgers, and even chickpeas (garbanzos). Lima beans are relatively low; soybeans (and anything made from soy) are unusually high in lysine. So be a has-bean!  Eat your beans at every meal.

All right, I know you are going to ask, so 

First, drain ‘em! Do NOT use the liquid that canned beans are packed in, nor the water that you soak or cook beans in.  Such processing liquid is high in raffinose sugars, which are gas-producing par excellence. Why? Because bacteria love them so, that’s why. 

Odor also partly results from amines, which are formed by colon bacteria from amino acids (from protein). Eating less protein in general, and less flesh protein in particular has an olfactory benefit. The stool of a cow is a lot less unpleasant than the stool of a dog. This is related to overconsumption of protein in the meateater. Since the average American eats fully TWO TO THREE TIMES more protein a day than s/he needs, you need not worry about wasting away.

You will doubtless be pleased to know that most intestinal gas is odorless methane, odorless hydrogen, and odorless carbon dioxide.  But then there’s hydrogen sulfide (again, from protein) which the human nose can detect this at just ONE PART PER TWO BILLION.

Odorific gas is produced by bowel bacteria, given the chance, as they munch on nondigested, over-consumed, poorly-chewed food. Yes, it can be HOW you eat, not just what.

DID YOU KNOW that the average person forms 1 to 3 PINTS of bowel gas each day, with about 14 emissions?
DID YOU KNOW that this was one of the most quoted facts students lifted from my Clinical Nutrition lectures?

Okay, now for the “bottom” line:


ONE: slow down and chew your food very well. Undigested starches are another major culprit.  If you must gobble your dinner, eat lots of rice, which is easy to digest.

TWO: sprout your beans, and/or cook them thoroughly. Remember: drain off that canning or cooking water! 

THREE: allow time for colon bacteria to adapt to dietary changes.  Most new vegetarians have a not-new body, full of stuff from the old days of revelry. Transition can take a while, but I think you will FEEL better right away.

FOUR: cut down on sweets excess simple carbohydrates are good culture medium for bacteria, so starve the little beggars.

(Liebman, B. "Out of Gas?" Center for Science in the Public Interest’s Nutrition Action Healthletter, March 1991 is a rather funny and very informative little article on this happy topic, and was used as a reference for this article, as was the standard dietetics textbook Nutrition and Diet Therapy, by S. R. Williams, St. Louis: Mosby, 1993.)

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